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--- Log opened Sat Jul 12 17:39:43 2008
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17:43 <@slytherin> tuxmaniac: FYI ... I am onto electric, should be done by tomorrow.
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17:44 < tuxmaniac> ANNOUNCEMENT: Sessions will take place in #ubuntu-in-classroom for the sessions. Here only questions will be asked. Any doubts please ping the OPS.
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17:44 < lut4rp> tuxmaniac: now you tell me
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17:46 < tazz> who is logging in the classroom ?
17:47 <@slytherin> tazz: techno_freak
17:47 < tazz> techno_freak, can i pm ?
17:48 < bliZZardz> 9:30 - right?
17:48 < lut4rp> bliZZardz: yes
17:48 < punchagan> 10mins to go
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17:50 < techno_freak> tazz, sure
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17:52 <@tuxmaniac> REPEAT ANNOUNCEMENT: Sessions will take place in #ubuntu-in-classroom for the sessions. Here only questions will be asked. Any doubts please ping the OPS.
17:53 <@tuxmaniac> we start at 2130 hrs
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17:58 <@tuxmaniac> REPEAT ANNOUNCEMENT: Sessions will take place in #ubuntu-in-classroom for the sessions. Here only questions will be asked. Any doubts please ping the OPS. Sessions starting in 2 minutes
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18:06  * riddle28 [hi]
18:06 < bliZZardz> !ubottu
18:06 < ubot3> I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)
18:07 < lut4rp> !ubot3
18:07 < ubot3> Factoid ubot3 not found
18:07  * bliZZardz .. bot works
18:08 < sumitc> !ubottu
18:08 < ubot3> I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)
18:10 < techno_freak> do not abuse the bot please
18:10 < lut4rp> eh?
18:11 < bliZZardz> parthan : dholbach not joining us? and dont you also want to announce this in #ubuntu-* ?
18:11 < techno_freak> Questions, if any
18:11 < punchagan> what exactly is meant by triaging?
18:11 < punchagan> or will it be clear at the end of the session?
18:11 < techno_freak> bliZZardz, no, this is loco team initiative, dholbach might be busy
18:11 < sumitc> How do I use the bot?
18:11 < techno_freak> punchagan, it will be clear at the end of part 2
18:11 < punchagan> ok. techno_freak
18:11 < bliZZardz> teachno_freak : but others can always benefit
18:11 < lut4rp> !7669
18:11 < ubot3> Factoid 7669 not found
18:12 < lut4rp> techno_freak: how do we use the bot?
18:12 < techno_freak> !bugs
18:12 < ubot3> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
18:12 < techno_freak> !launchpad
18:12 < ubot3> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
18:12 < techno_freak> it can help you on topics, it is not a bug bot
18:12 < lut4rp> techno_freak: ohhh
18:13 < lut4rp> i am habitual to the #drupal bot
18:15 < techno_freak> bliZZardz, that wasn't a roll count, that was to get an idea how many knew about LP
18:16 < bliZZardz> techno_freak: depends on how you see it - if there are more num of ppl, i would not like to see "I do" n number of times
18:17 < techno_freak> bliZZardz, it ensures people are responsive
18:17 < punchagan> :)
18:18  * bliZZardz sees another rollcount in the forum now :)
18:19 < punchagan> how do I sign code of conduct?
18:20 <@slytherin> tuxmaniac: tuxmaniac: is signing of code of conduct necessary?
18:20 <@tuxmaniac> slytherin: not must. but just for info?
18:20 < techno_freak> slytherin, we are just going to say what to do, its a homework ;)
18:20 < lut4rp> punchagan: see ur LP page, in the sidebar
18:21 < punchagan> lut4rp: I can't see anything in the side bar. well i don't have one.
18:21 <@slytherin> tuxmaniac: signing involves probably creating a gpg key for most. Kind of OT for this session
18:21 < riddle28> how do i sign code of conduct?
18:21 < lut4rp> punchagan: logged in to LP?
18:21 < punchagan> yes. lut4rp
18:21 < lut4rp> Here's how to sign the CoC
18:21 < lut4rp> 1. Log into LP
18:21 < techno_freak> !codeofconduct
18:21 < ubot3> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
18:22 < riddle28> codes of conduct??
18:22 < riddle28> ya i saw it
18:22 < riddle28> wait we are signing
18:22 < lut4rp> ah good
18:22 < lut4rp> !codofconduct
18:22 < ubot3> Factoid codofconduct not found
18:22 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: nice! :-)
18:22 < lut4rp> you need a GPG key to sign the CoC
18:23 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: not important as of now. we will get it done later after the sessions (theory) is over :-)
18:23 < riddle28> how dod we enter a gpg key
18:23 < punchagan> lut4rp: sorry I didn't find it.
18:23 < punchagan> ok tuxmaniac
18:24 < riddle28> ??
18:24 < riddle28> i mean import
18:24 < riddle28> key can be anything??
18:24 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: punchagan we shall do it together when we start squashing bugs
18:24 <@tuxmaniac> ridlnow I guess, we can concentrate on the session.
18:24 < riddle28> k
18:24 < riddle28> but key can be anything na
18:24 < riddle28> i mean if i am creating one
18:24 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: no. It cant be anything
18:25 <@tuxmaniac> it has to be created if you dont have one already
18:25 < riddle28> just a min tuxmaniac
18:25 < punchagan> riddle28: use gpg or seahorse(gui)
18:25 < riddle28> yahh
18:26 < riddle28> k then but i have to sign the code of conduct now na?
18:26 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: no. we can do that later
18:26 < lut4rp> riddle28: do that later,
18:27 < punchagan> wait until techno_freak tells you.
18:27 < punchagan> sorry. techno_fre
18:28 < riddle28> k
18:28 < Ghost-R> whats the classroom channel ?
18:28 < Ghost-R> which*
18:28 <@tuxmaniac> Please use [question] tag if you want to ask a q to techno. Question can be anything
18:28 < punchagan> #ubuntu-in-classroom
18:29 < Ghost-R> you guys dont mind if I have a look right ?
18:29 < lut4rp> Ghost-R: jump in, you are welcome
18:29 < lut4rp> its open for all
18:29 < punchagan> [question] What are the supported versions as of now?
18:30 < punchagan> [question] and what is Long term Support (or something like that) ?
18:32 < lut4rp> tuxmaniac: can i answer questions here? the ones i know, that is :)
18:32 <@tuxmaniac> lut4rp: hehe sure sure
18:32 < lut4rp> thanks
18:32 <@tuxmaniac> lut4rp: this is a general place.
18:33 <@tuxmaniac> lut4rp: you can even vomit here :P
18:33 < punchagan> heh
18:33 <@tuxmaniac> provded you clean up the mess yourself later on.
18:33 < lut4rp> punchagan: LTS releases are those for which security updates are available for 3 years
18:33 <@tuxmaniac> but techno_freak will answer to the best of his lknowledge in the classroom channel too
18:34 < punchagan> tuxmaniac: is asking such noobish questions ok?
18:34 < lut4rp> punchagan: YES
18:34 <@tuxmaniac> punchagan: thats why these sessions are organised ;-)
18:34 < punchagan> ok lut4rp and the others are for 18 months?
18:34 < lut4rp> punchagan: i think so
18:34 < lut4rp> not sure :(
18:34 < lut4rp> desktop LTS: 3 years
18:35 <@slytherin> punchagan: check answer in classroom channel
18:35 < lut4rp> server LTS: 5 years
18:35 < riddle28> but u have said the bugs should be supported only for the latest release ie hardy
18:35 < punchagan> yeah. thanks.
18:35 < lut4rp> riddle28: bugs are reported for the supported releases
18:36 < riddle28> ??
18:36 < riddle28> according to slytherin
18:36 < lut4rp> and as you can see in the classroom channel, we have 6.06, 7.04, 7.10 and 8.04 supported as of now
18:36 <@tuxmaniac> guys its QA time. any questions? is LTS thing clear/
18:36 <@slytherin> riddle28: You can report bug on any of the supported release.
18:36 < riddle28> kk
18:36 < riddle28> sorry
18:36 <@slytherin> tuxmaniac: let's filter questions not directly related to triaging here.
18:37 <@tuxmaniac> ok.
18:37 < punchagan> xb
18:37 < riddle28> so in other words supported versions starting from dapper
18:37 < riddle28> these bugs can be reported
18:37 < riddle28> at launchpad
18:37 < lut4rp> riddle28: exactly
18:37 <@slytherin> riddle28: not starting with dapper, but dapper and starting with feisty. Edgy is not supported anymore.
18:37 < riddle28> k
18:38 <@slytherin> riddle28: if dapper was not LTS it also would be unsupported by now
18:38 < punchagan> hmm
18:38 < riddle28> hmm
18:39 < sumitc> Why is some release termed as LTS and some are not?
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18:39 < lut4rp> sumitc: releases which are supported for 3 years are known as LTS
18:40 <@slytherin> sumitc: LTS is simply Long Term Support. Consider it like an enterprise release for those who don't want to upgrade frequently but want a stable release.
18:40 < lut4rp> read the backlog, i have answered this question a while ago
18:40 <@tuxmaniac> [question] what is apport
18:40 < sumitc> lut4rp, I know what LTS is
18:40 < sumitc> perhaps you misunderstood my question
18:40 < sumitc> slytherin, ok
18:40 < riddle28> what do u mean by confidential??
18:40 < riddle28> corresponding to the software?
18:40 < lut4rp> sumitc: oh okay :)
18:41 < riddle28> u said core dump contains some confidential info
18:41 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: please hold for the question to be pasted until he gives a QA break
18:41 <@tuxmaniac> but you can keep asking.
18:41 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: we dont want to disturb his flow
18:41 < lut4rp> riddle28: we dont want user's confidential info in a bug report
18:41 < punchagan> ok. lut4rp
18:41 < lut4rp> for privacy reasons
18:42 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: also use [question] tag. easy for me to identify
18:42 < lut4rp> like your computer name, or some details on how you have setup the computer
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18:42 < riddle28> ??
18:42 < techno_freak> !apport
18:42 < ubot3> apport: automatically generate crash reports for debugging. In component main, is optional. Version 0.103 (hardy), package size 102 kB, installed size 452 kB
18:42 < punchagan> hmm. I'm loving ubot3 !
18:42 < riddle28> sorry
18:43 < riddle28> k
18:44 <@slytherin> lut4rp: keep answers directly related to triaging for classroom channel so everyone will know
18:44 < lut4rp> slytherin: ok
18:47 < punchagan> i thought we were allowed during Questions session.
18:47 < punchagan> ok.
18:48 <@slytherin> punchagan: questions here, answers there.
18:48 < riddle28> wat is meant by triager?
18:48 < punchagan> ok.
18:48 < punchagan> riddle28: use [questions] tag.
18:48 < riddle28> question
18:49 < lut4rp> riddle28: like this...
18:49 < lut4rp> [question] what is meant by a triager?
18:49 <@tuxmaniac> people, please dont get annoyed with some conventions like the [questions] tag. This is how ubntu classrooms are conducted. Hence it will be helpful the next time you attend a global classroom or may be motu school
18:49 < punchagan> ok. tuxmaniac :D
18:49 < riddle28> hmm
18:49 < lut4rp> tuxmaniac, motu school = fat school?
18:50 < lut4rp> lol, joking
18:50 <@tuxmaniac> lut4rp: heheh MASter of the Universe
18:50 <@tuxmaniac> Universe repos
18:50 < riddle28> ya forgot
18:50 < riddle28> sorry
18:50 < lut4rp> yea i know
18:50 < lut4rp> :D
18:50 < Ghost-R> so one can only ask Questiongs pertaining to TERMINOLOGIES ?
18:50 < lut4rp> the first time i heard it, i was reminded of he-man
18:50 <@tuxmaniac> Ghost-R: no no. anything!
18:50 <@tuxmaniac> Ghost-R: related to bug triaging
18:51 < bliZZardz> Ghost-R : remember "tuxmaniac: Ghost-R: no no. anything!" -- basically means anything w.r.t Ubuntu :)
18:51 < sumitc> tuxmaniac: Do we get a bathroom break? :)
18:51 < lut4rp> sumitc: no
18:51 <@tuxmaniac> sumitc: hehe. you go and come. channel keeps running. you keep logging
18:52 < sumitc> :)
18:52 < Ghost-R> lol
18:53 < riddle28> nice terminology by techno_freak
18:54 <@tuxmaniac> btw, since the term of MOTU came up. For people who dont know. Becoming a MOTu is a achievment in itself :-)
18:54 < riddle28> ;)
18:54 <@tuxmaniac> getting a Ubuntu member tag is comparitively easy. But MOTU requires hard work and dedication
18:54 < lut4rp> tuxmaniac: i am interested
18:54 < lut4rp> :)
18:55 <@tuxmaniac> lut4rp: and the first requirement for becoming a MOTU is you have to be ubuntu menber :-)
18:55 < sumitc> tuxmaniac, how do I become a Ubuntu member?
18:55  * tuxmaniac proposes a session on Ubuntu Membership process.
18:55 < lut4rp> bleh
18:55 <@tuxmaniac> and amachu is the right person for it
18:55  * sumitc agrees
18:56 <@slytherin> sumitc: hold your question toll tomorrow session
18:56 < sumitc> ok
18:56 < lut4rp> i still have to seriously do something
18:56 <@tuxmaniac> ok. guys get back to poor techno_freak :-) we are running OT here too
18:57 < Ghost-R> session over ? :O
18:58 <@tuxmaniac> Ghost-R: err? Isnt it still running. I can see techno_freak still lecturing.
18:58 <@tuxmaniac> so questions folks?
18:59  * punchagan no.
18:59 < Ghost-R> What is MOTu?
18:59 < riddle28> [question] what is the code of conduct for then??
18:59 <@tuxmaniac> Ghost-R: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
19:00 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: CoC for whom?
19:00 < techno_freak> !motu
19:00 < ubot3> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
19:00 < riddle28> i mean what is it used for
19:00 < punchagan> !codeofconduct
19:00 < ubot3> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
19:00 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: it is just a agreement that we will adhere to some conduct
19:01 <@tuxmaniac> like in school we take pledge right?
19:01 < lut4rp> how long with his go?
19:01 < lut4rp> this*
19:01 < lut4rp> will*
19:01 < riddle28> for submitting the answers for the bugs
19:01 < riddle28> in lauchpad
19:01 <@slytherin> lut4rp: half an hour more
19:01 < lut4rp> :)
19:01 < lut4rp> slytherin: thanks
19:01 <@tuxmaniac> after he completes his theory, we will jump into untriaged bug reports
19:01 <@tuxmaniac> thats were the fun comes in
19:01 < riddle28> hmm
19:01 < riddle28> k
19:01 < riddle28> hehe
19:01 < riddle28> and why is htat gpg key
19:01 < riddle28> required
19:02 < riddle28> tht*
19:02 <@slytherin> riddle28: As a community members you are expected to be respectful to others, use proper language etc.
19:02 < riddle28> ??
19:02 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: thats how you sign a online document "digitally"
19:03 < sumitc> tuxmaniac: if I have a  GPG key, then it identifies me?
19:03 < riddle28> k did
19:03 < riddle28> sorry for any offence
19:03 < lut4rp> riddle28: slytherin means use proper language, not sms speak
19:03 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: hehe you didnt offend anyone here
19:03 <@tuxmaniac> riddle28: it was an explanation for COC by slytherin
19:04 <@tuxmaniac> sumitc: yes. infact it is used to encrypt mails and stuff
19:04 < sumitc> tuxmaniac: How do others know about my PGP key? Do I have to upload it anywhere?
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19:05 < lut4rp> sumitc: yes
19:05 < lut4rp> to a keyserver
19:05 <@tuxmaniac> also most project require you to have your gpg key in place before you can commit your changes . in that way it ensures only "known" people commit.
19:05 < sumitc> so how do I upload it to a keyserver?
19:06 <@slytherin> guys, can we concentrate on the session. All these questions not related to session can be answered later.
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19:06 < riddle> k
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19:07 < sumitc> ok
19:14 < punchagan> [question] can a bug report be improved by anybody?
19:15 <@slytherin> punchagan: Question queues
19:16 < punchagan> yeah. ok
19:19 < sumitc> [question] Do we inform the reporter as the status of a bug changes?
19:21 <@slytherin> sumitc: question queued
19:21 < sumitc> ok
19:27  * sumitc is itching to start crushing bugs!
19:28  * bliZZardz cant apply notion on the itch :P
19:28 < punchagan> [question] so basically its the [New] bugs that doesn't have any triager looking at them, and those are the ones you pick. right?
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19:29 < tazz> he forgot about wishlist
19:29 < tazz> [question] what is wishlist
19:30 < techno_freak> tuxmaniac, paste tazz's qsn plz
19:32 <@slytherin> tazz: question queued
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19:32 < ubunturos> darn! I missed it
19:32 < techno_freak> ubunturos, logs will be there..
19:33 < ubunturos> techno_freak: hmm, but there's a great fun in "listening live" ;)
19:33 <@tuxmaniac> ubunturos: it isnt over yet :-)
19:33 < ubunturos> tuxmaniac: ah, is it?
19:33 <@tuxmaniac> ubunturos: and the bugs are being picked for triag now
19:33  * ubunturos resizes his IRC window
19:33 <@tuxmaniac> ubunturos: #ubuntu-in-classroom please
19:35 < punchagan> [question] who prioritizes the bugs?
19:37 <@tuxmaniac> ok guys me will have to take leave
19:37 <@tuxmaniac> will catch you in sometime from home if net is OK.
19:38 < techno_freak> ciao tuxmaniac
19:38 < sumitc> [question] Did not get the wishlist category
19:41 <@slytherin> Any more questions about priority?
19:42 < sumitc> none from me
19:44 < punchagan> me too
19:47 < techno_freak> sumitc, dont abuse the bot in that channel
19:47 < sumitc> not abusing, techno_freak
19:47 < techno_freak> do it here, that's why we have it here
19:47 < techno_freak> do not play with it there
19:47 < sumitc> alright
19:53 < riddle28> [question] what is that text file exactly??
19:54 < riddle28> ??
19:54 <@slytherin> riddle28: try opening it.
19:54 < riddle28> opnd
19:56 <@tuxmaniac> bug 247802
19:56 < ubot3> Malone bug 247802 in linux "Firefox 3 crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247802
19:57 < riddle28> [question]in general has he the bug reporter got it in log files ??
19:57 < riddle28> ?
19:57 < techno_freak> tuxmaniac, ok ok
19:58 < techno_freak> riddle28, we are not sure how he got that, so we *ask him*
19:59 < riddle28> k
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20:06 < sumitc> bug 247802
20:06 < ubot3> Malone bug 247802 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox 3 crash" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247802
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20:25 < punchagan> bug 247727
20:25 < ubot3> Malone bug 247727 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "mysql ignores view order when selecting with group by" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247727
20:27 < techno_freak> bug 247861
20:27 < ubot3> Malone bug 247861 in openoffice.org "openoffice.org crashes on load/save dialog when login is short" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247861
20:28 <@tuxmaniac> bug 247930
20:28 < ubot3> Malone bug 247930 in inkscape "no Font OS X " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247930
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20:34 <@tuxmaniac> 247811
20:34 <@tuxmaniac> bug 247811
20:34 < ubot3> Malone bug 247811 in gnome-main-menu "Applications menu content got erased" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247811
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20:53 < lut4rp> okay, i have a small query before i leave
20:53 < lut4rp> i have a root partition of 12 GB on my HP tablet
20:53 < lut4rp> it includes my home folder